With some work, this pair is salvageable. The front crotch is too long, the back crotch is the wrong shape and the waist is about 2" too big and that's with 1" center front seams. The only thing I like about these is the side seam zipper. It's perfect. I had to go back to the drawing board. I did realize that I don't need to add to the crotch points. Those dimples in the front crotch are a result of too much crotch point. The pictures are doing the fit justice. The slacks look much worse in person! I haven't given up. I've just begun to fight!


